boredcleaner
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I'd be interested in the $30 range.
Miimura's thoughts match pretty well what I was thinking. I'm going to go with $39, and I've set up a Paypal account through [email protected]. What I meant by setting up a "payment system" is I'll probably be sticking a Paypal button on the default screen along with a reminder about how many days are left in your 14 day trial. Plus I intend to create an administrative area for myself that I can use from my phone to quickly mark accounts as paid as I receive Paypal notifications.miimura said:I would send you $30-$50 by Paypal for a year of service. No e-commerce site necessary. You could just set up a special e-mail and Paypal account to receive the money and have people put their Entune e-mail in the payment note so you can connect it with the right account.
Per year.Dsinned said:Joe, do you intend to charge $39 per year?
The key distinction between the GOM/entune range and the RavCharge range is that the GOM range is backward-looking, using unknown assumptions, while the RavCharge range lets you make the assumptions and plan accordingly. This is why the RavCharge range is useful, while the GOM range isn't. How can you plan around a number when you don't know how efficiently you need to drive to match it? If you know you'll be using CC extensively for an upcoming drive, you can then alter your projected efficiency and hence RavCharge range accordingly. I recommend ignoring the GOM at all times and using tools like Tony's range chart in concert with RavCharge (or at the very least looking at how many bars you have) for a meaningful estimate of your range for any given drive.Dsinned said:Btw, one thing about RavCharge that could (or should?) be improved is the range displayed as calculated by RavCharge vs. calculated by Entunes (i.e. from the car itself).
This is definitely doable. Adding in a recurring CC timer is on my to-do list, and I can also add an optional check to make sure the car's plugged in first (just like the charging timer) if you only want to run the pre-climate when you're plugged in.eplantz said:Do you plan on adding MULTIPLE climate control timers?? This would be what I need. I do not work in the same location each day of the week and therefore my travel times vary. So, I need to pre-condition in my garage before I leave and then pre-condition at the client's location just before heading home. So, in my case, I need 4 timers. I can foresee other people needing more.
Also, in my case, the timers need to specify day-of-the-week plus time plus be recurring.
fooljoe said:Miimura's thoughts match pretty well what I was thinking. I'm going to go with $39, and I've set up a Paypal account through [email protected]. What I meant by setting up a "payment system" is I'll probably be sticking a Paypal button on the default screen along with a reminder about how many days are left in your 14 day trial. Plus I intend to create an administrative area for myself that I can use from my phone to quickly mark accounts as paid as I receive Paypal notifications.miimura said:I would send you $30-$50 by Paypal for a year of service. No e-commerce site necessary. You could just set up a special e-mail and Paypal account to receive the money and have people put their Entune e-mail in the payment note so you can connect it with the right account.
Will do. You can send a payment now and just include a note with your entune ID, and I'll handle it manually. I'm working on a method to automate the process from within the app, so if you prefer you can wait for that.eplantz said:please make sure you allow for a mechanism to tie a payment to the Entunes ID. My Paypal ID is NOT the same as my Entunes ID.
That's weird about the climate on thing. I checked it out and your car was stuck in a weird state where it looks like it finished a pre-climate but never updated its status. I sent it a stop climate command and now it's cleared up. As far as the notifications, the button does indicate when the server receives the command, and if you keep RavCharge open you'll get a popup indicating when the climate actually starts (this may take a few minutes though). If that doesn't work you probably need to make sure you're using a javascript-enabled browser. I plan to give you the option to receive a notification email letting you know when a command succeeds or fails so you don't have to stick around in the app to find out.yblaser said:Again great web app! I'll sign up for the year at that price and then see how it goes from there.
One issue and one suggestion... my climate tab has been showing climate on for the last day or two. Obviously it hasn't been on continuously. It would also be nice to have some indication that your server received the climate on request. I've had a couple of occasions when I requested to turn the climate control on (and then put my phone to sleep) and not had it come on. If possible I was thinking the "start climate now" button would change to "connecting" when pressed and "starting" once your server receives and acknowledges the command.
Such a departure timer has been on the to-do list since day one. That's great news if Toyota has finally fixed the 31st bug, but that was really just one small thing out of a ton of problems RavCharge solves already. When you think about it, the 31st bug is really the least significant of the onboard timer's shortcomings, because at least it was a known issue that could be planned around. Unpredictable charge start times and seemingly randomly skipped charges (sometimes after charging on 120v, sometimes still unexplained) remain.miimura said:Since it appears that Toyota may have finally fixed the 31st bug, I think the biggest value-add that you can provide with RavCharge is a Departure Timer that really works and is based on user entered Volt and Amp values. The RAV charges very predictably and I haven't a clue how Toyota botched the departure scheduling so badly. If you can see in the status data whether the car is set for Standard or Extended Charge, it should be very straight forward to calculate the proper starting time for a charging session to complete when desired.
No, I think I've explained before why I don't like this idea, but to reiterate: A one time fee works great for hardware, or for a self-contained app that I can just hand over to you, but RavCharge is a service that runs on servers I maintain, and so requires recurring expenses (and a big ongoing time commitment on my part) to maintain. I want to reserve the right to shut the whole thing down if my expenses get too high, or if not enough people are interested, etc. If I sell you lifetime use then I've committed myself to a lifetime of indentured servitude for perhaps nothing more than a few hundred bucks!Dsinned said:Would you be open to us paying a higher, but heavily discounted, "one time" fee for lifetime use of Ravcharger?
Thanks. I may be missing something but I guess I don't understand how the button indicates whether the server received the command or not. I can load the page, turn my internet off, press the climate start button, and it still says starting. I understand I get the pop up when the climate actually starts after a couple of minutes, but I'm looking for indication that my phone actually sent the command successfully to the RavCharge server. BTW, I am using chrome on android.fooljoe said:As far as the notifications, the button does indicate when the server receives the command, and if you keep RavCharge open you'll get a popup indicating when the climate actually starts (this may take a few minutes though).
Ok, I see what you mean. You're right that the javascript will change the button to 'starting' even if you no longer have an internet connection, but I think it's generally safe to assume that if you continue to have an internet connection the command will get through to the RavCharge servers very fast. I'll look into adding a 'command sent'-style message though.yblaser said:Thanks. I may be missing something but I guess I don't understand how the button indicates whether the server received the command or not. I can load the page, turn my internet off, press the climate start button, and it still says starting. I understand I get the pop up when the climate actually starts after a couple of minutes, but I'm looking for indication that my phone actually sent the command successfully to the RavCharge server. BTW, I am using chrome on android.
Thanks! My cellular internet connection is often very spotty in the building I work in. It also seems to freeze and take a while to re-establish even if the phone is reporting it has a cellular data connection, hence knowing that the RavCharge server received the request is helpful.fooljoe said:Ok, I see what you mean. You're right that the javascript will change the button to 'starting' even if you no longer have an internet connection, but I think it's generally safe to assume that if you continue to have an internet connection the command will get through to the RavCharge servers very fast.
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