Introducing OVMS for RAV4 EV

[hokiematt]

Ugh. How do you know these things? I can't tell visually, and I've read hundreds of drawings and got paid to do it

I have the benefit of having these connectors sitting on my desk, next to a very good LED magnifier/light

 

[asavage]

I like pictures.












Not professional quality, but a decent prototype. I sure hope it works

A few things I could have done better:

• Female (w/male pins): I wish I could have located my small nippers, as I would have cut off the unused pins on the back of the female connector, which would have eased some of the bulk soldering back there.
• Female: The epoxy potting really went poorly; I was trying to use up some decade-plus old JB Weld I had rotting in a drawer, and the viscosity was too high to flow properly. As was the viscosity of my next-oldest epoxy as well
• Male: I could have connected the shield of the LAN jack to ground, if I had thought ahead. That's not necessary, but it would have been nice.
• Male: My Pressmaster 4300-3146 crimper die collection has a lot of dies, but while the 4300-3146 is supposed to work for 10-22 AWG open barrel connectors, I ran into the same issue as last time I tried actually crimping 22 AWG: it just doesn't work. I ordered (and received, too late) the alternate die 4300-3150, which is for 18-26 AWG, to try next time. (TME Electronic Components shipped the die from Poland to my doorstep in three days!, and had the best price and no extra shipping. Recommended.) Instead, I had to solder all the terminals, which really doesn't work well as if you get any solder on the outside of the terminal, it changes its outer dimensions and then doesn't want to insert into the housing. I had to use some specialized tools and a lot of force to assemble the male connector (with female terminals).

 

[asavage]

Yea! I get to do it better, a second time around, because I did pot the connector before testing -- I do know better, what was I thinking?

First, here's a instrument cluster combo that isn't frequently seen:





Here's the reason: I have the what should be in pins 6 & 16 shifted over to 5 & 15.

When my new nippers arrive, and I've picked up some fresh epoxy, I'll start over. Fun stuff!

 

[hokiematt]

Al-

Personal preference here, but you might consider using some small pieces of heat shrink over the leads soldered to the header pins; there's not much clearance between connections and I'd argue that a shrink sleeve (or some Kapton tape) is better protection against a short than mere potting alone.

 

[asavage]

Tough installing heat shrink over two leads, then sliding down onto the pin after soldering. I'd have to use larger heat shrink than would fit well. This is all low voltage stuff, so any gap >.020" is fine, as long as the humidity stays reasonable.

With proper nippers, a pin forest this sparse will be easy-peasy, once I nip off the unused pins. Then, on adjacent pins, I can bend them away from each other. I just could not find my nippers -- I just signed a lease and am moving residence -- and you can't really used gen-purpose side-cutters on this stuff, they're too large.

I don't mind epoxy, it's just that the electrical test is supposed to precede the potting, and I got it out of order again. Like soldering terminals and then remembering that I was supposed to feed through a housing first, or install heat shink first, or whatever. Happens to me all the time, esp. with interruptions.

Mouser forwarded to me a notice that the DE9 shell that I used has been discontinued by TE Conn. shame, it's nice. I'll have to find a sub if I need another one someday. I used to buy metal shells like this by the bucketload . . . 25 years ago.

When you gonna draw up proper adapter boards? No actives or passive, should be easy for someone versed in this. I had so much trouble drawing a gen-purpose wiring diagram using KiCad that I gave up and went back to gen-purpose drawing tools: PhotoShop circa 2007, and SnagIt! Editor circa 2016. I thought KiCad would be an appropriate tool, but it's not for what I wanted to do. Then I found actual bugs in the UI and got sent down the usual rabbit hole of free software: bug reports, which will likely sit unhandled for years until all the principals have moved on and the the code's been refactored so many times that nobody knows where to start anymore.

 

[Jonathan_UK]

Hi all,
Is anyone able to share a final wiring diagram and parts list?
I bought the OVMS and am now looking to make the connector.

Also, if anyone wants to sell their homemade connectors on eBay or direct through PayPal, I would be interested.

I'm a little surprised QC Charge haven't started making them yet.

 

[asavage]

I never got around to finishing above; I had to move house a week after that post in May2022, and that project got put in a box on a shelf It's still here . . . somewhere.

 

[miimura]

My OVMS has been running for about two years now. I would like to make some improvements, but I don't have time to work on it.
In theory, Remote Climate and Timer Charge Stop and Start should be relatively easy. However, I missed the opportunity to capture this CANbus traffic from a car while the Toyota SafetyConnect Telematics system was still operating. In theory, I can set things up with timers in the head unit and capture what it sends to the Gateway over the Toyota CANbus. Like I said, I just don't have time to work on it.

The biggest problem I have with OVMS is that the Javascript engine that is used to send telematic data to ABRP is not so stable, so the module crashes and reboots regularly. If I just turned that off, the whole module would be more stable. When it's working, the integration with ABRP is pretty slick.

I also have not made any effort to set up cable fabrication for other people because there honestly hasn't been much interest. The "right" way to do it would probably be to design a little PCB to solder the connectors and act as a splitter to the OVMS. It's not expensive to make little PCBs like this, it just takes someone with the time and skills to do it.

 

[Davidew98]

My OVMS has been running for about two years now. I would like to make some improvements, but I don't have time to work on it.
In theory, Remote Climate and Timer Charge Stop and Start should be relatively easy. However, I missed the opportunity to capture this CANbus traffic from a car while the Toyota SafetyConnect Telematics system was still operating. In theory, I can set things up with timers in the head unit and capture what it sends to the Gateway over the Toyota CANbus. Like I said, I just don't have time to work on it.

The biggest problem I have with OVMS is that the Javascript engine that is used to send telematic data to ABRP is not so stable, so the module crashes and reboots regularly. If I just turned that off, the whole module would be more stable. When it's working, the integration with ABRP is pretty slick.

I also have not made any effort to set up cable fabrication for other people because there honestly hasn't been much interest. The "right" way to do it would probably be to design a little PCB to solder the connectors and act as a splitter to the OVMS. It's not expensive to make little PCBs like this, it just takes someone with the time and skills to do it.

Your right, set the pre-climate and or pre-charge in the headunit and capture what is sent to the tesla gateway!
The headunit stores the schedule and fires the start command when the time comes.
I also think Safety Connect told the headunit to fire off the preclimate, safety connect commands did not work with the headunit removed! They should be the same commands.

 

[dogger23]

My car just gave an error, any chance someone has their old adapter that they don't need any longer?

 

[dogger23]

My car just gave an error, any chance someone has their old adapter that they don't need any longer?

 

[asavage]

Using OVMS for Tesla powertrain diagostics? Never heard of that. Usually:

Load TPD on a laptop:
https://www.myrav4ev.com/threads/tesla-powertrain-diagnostics-tpd-v1-1-46.2602/

Build or buy an adapter cable:
https://www.myrav4ev.com/threads/tpd-diagnostic-cables-pre-assembled.2601/

Then post screenshot(s) of the Alerts that TPD shows, and we can help. Start your own thread for better response.