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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smkettner" data-source="post: 24306" data-attributes="member: 786">I have NEVER had a dealer experience that was good.  Purchase, service, any of it.ALWAYS some bs nonsense, upsell, hardball, excessive service, complete lies, shoddy work, or just being morons.Carson Toyota that sold so many RAV4-EVs is most certainly included.If I can do anything to stay out of the dealership I do it.  This is part of the reason I wanted an EV.I so hope the Tesla model works out better.And thank you for the buyout confirmation to go direct.</blockquote>