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If you really want to know the range, rather than depending on the car's estimate of its capacity (Tony test) why not do what the original poster did? Drive the car to near depletion. He reported that after 95 miles of careful driving, he had 5 miles left. His range was pretty close to...

Unfortunately this seems like it might be correct. As the battery in a Rav fades, most of the loss is hidden in the "extended" portion. In normal mode, the battery is charged to some Voltage; in extended mode to some slightly higher Voltage. As the battery fades, the standard Voltage is...

How about a rhinoceros or unicorn bar? That would make a deeper impression on them!!!!!

You are splitting hairs if you are now saying that Toyota USA never failed to repair the cars when their dealer network made the task unreasonably difficult. Toyota could have prevented this issue by taking responsibility for fixing things such as the MDU rather than putting customers at...

I have PMed you the names They didn't come out and say it, they never called back, they "forgot" to send the paperwork to Tesla, they lost the test report, please make an appointment and come back into start the replacement process all over, the EV specialist hurt his back, etc etc etc. Each...

This first time my drive motor failed it took five months. Toyota blamed Tesla but who's to say The second time it failed three Toyota dealers made excuses why it was too much trouble to deal with the problem. After six months it was finally time to turn back the car with the motor stil...

The first gen Rav EV has value primarily as a collector's item, not as a practical car. I'd almost call it a "cult car"

Don't forget sales tax 9% or whatever in your area, about $1800 What will this car be worth in three, five years? Almost nothing is my guess. What you would end up paying would make the lease payments on two Bolts. Ditch it

Makes sense to me. Every one of these cars that is on the road is a potential parts and service headache to Toyota. Haha...Think of all the EV fans who hate GM and promise never to buy another GM car due to the scrappage of the the EV1s fifteen years ago. I wonder if they will equally shun...

If you can hit 200 miles per charge, you should be thrilled. Several years ago, people were talking about 200 mile trips http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=183 Only a handful of people did this, typically with average speeds around 30-40 MPH. If you can do that with a...

The main thing more it does it that it goes an extra hundred miles on a charge; and it includes DCFC. Like I said, I took a trip with ease (140 freeway miles) that would have been a squeaker when the car was new, and would have been impossible with tired, three year old batteries. Yes, of...

When we turned in ours, they were very fair. Tires were nearly worn out, minor damage to rear bumper cover, etc. They added up about $750 in issues but treated them all as normal wear and tear. No complaints from me in that regard. You will also get stuck with about $1800 in sales taxes if...

I just took a 140 mile trip at freeway speeds in our Bolt, returned home with 95 miles still remaining. Yes, it's smaller than the Rav was, but it does so much more. And the lease is far less expensive than it was on the Rav. Never mind the fact that when the first motor in the Rav started...

We return our Rav this week. 80,000 miles, battery fade is evident. On second motor which also whines, but we didn't bother to have it replaced a second time. Replacement is a Bolt...50% more range and lease payment is 2/3 what we have been paying for the Rav. No longer need the unlimited...

Do you have an estimate of the benefit? Like at 65 MPH range would increase by a factor of so much?

In its day, the RAV 4 was the longest legged EV available at other than a luxury (i.e. Tesla) price Today, one can lease a 240 mile Bolt for less than a RAV was when new. I see little reason to buy a used RAV unless at a very low price and/or its size it critical to your own use.

I'm with Joe. Bolt for me. Not going to wait for a Model 3...expect to have 30,000 miles on the Bolt before I could have any chance of getting one. In 3 1/2 years I'll replace the Bolt with whatever is best then, which will not necessarily be a Tesla Used Tesla too expensive to buy and...

Yes, I'm in that range. Maybe 15% at 60K miles, lots of extended charges (perhaps half the time). Most of the Tesla fan reports (based on rated range) suggest well under 10% fade at 100K miles. For example https://electrek.co/2016/06/06/tesla-model-s-battery-pack-data-degradation/ I'm...

Yes, that's my impression as well. Tesla fans love to point at the minimal loss in "rated range" as evidence the battery isn't fading. I wouldn't place as much confidence in this as they seem to. My Focus Electric had an Energy to Empty estimate accessible over OBD. This number gradually...

I would like to ask the basis for the "Tony Test". I have to say I'm a little skeptical. My best understanding is that this test is equivalent to Tesla's "rated range", which is the standard that all the Tesla fans use to claim very little degradation. Tesla rated range, as best I...